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Leave Brittany alone.
Leave her alone.
Leave her alone.
Hi, I’m Annie.
And I’m Elle, and welcome to our trash parade.
Girl, I feel fine today, but this weekend I wanted to, like, fucking strangle somebody.
0:24
I don’t know what’s going on.
Like the vibes have been like, not good out by us.
How have they been by?
You I’ve been pretty isolated in my house, so I have no idea.
But tell me about Tejas.
How is it this past weekend with the the race and all that?
0:42
Oh my God dude, it had.
It was like a literal fucking trash parade in Austin this weekend.
So gross.
Like, so yeah, we have F1 races every year and I am not a fucking fan.
0:59
Like, do I like to see the big cars go vroom sometimes?
Sure.
Like that sounds like a fun thing to do for a day.
But we had a lot of people like just in town and I don’t know where they came from.
1:14
And I was just like, you guys are just Dicks.
I’m not everybody hashtag, not everybody F1, but I will say I had a larger than average interaction with people who were just like Dicks.
Like like there was a lot of dudes coming in with like those Oakley fucking glasses that are like the mirror polarized ones.
1:39
And like not in a like Gen.
Z I’m wearing these ironically because they’re retro kind of way.
But like that’s like the lifestyle.
So I’m living it kind of way and I’m just like, oh God.
But like man, there is like a lot of nouveau riche this weekend and I cannot stand the nouveau riche.
2:04
Like some of them are so horrible.
It’s like one thing if like there are some nouveau riche people who like worked really hard to get where they are and they like have served.
Or they have like worked in customer service or had like shitty fucking jobs and they’re decent to people.
And then there are like nouveau riche people that are very fucking insecure and like don’t have any fucking banners and I don’t I it makes me so angry.
2:32
So as a server, as a server, I’m like trained to pick up on your non, like your non verbal cues, right.
And there will be like people that come in and this is like just I’ve noticed this throughout my entire career at multiple places.
2:50
I’m not talking about like my work specifically, but like just this just happens across the service industry and you will get people who you’ll walk up to the table and be like, hey, I’m Al, how you doing today?
And they’ll be like, and they just like, give you this look.
3:11
I don’t know like how else to describe that look, Annie.
I don’t know if you want to give like a visual description for anyone that is listening and isn’t watching this.
But it’s it’s think does Santa’s smile but mouth gaping, Yeah, it’s.
3:29
Uncomfortableness that comes with that, yeah, but and like, they just sit there with like, their mouth a gape.
Almost like they’re like about to start screaming kind of like a possum or something like that.
And like old people who’ve had a lot of fucking plastic surgery, sometimes their face just looks like that where they’re like this all the time.
3:50
They’re like, but it’s like there’s a contempt in their eyes, like why are you coming to my table?
And they’re just like giving you this like crazy look and they just stare at you and they don’t respond.
And I’m like, all right, all right.
So there’s like a lot of that kind of energy.
4:07
And I was getting, like, so infuriated because if you don’t want to talk to me, that’s fine, I’m fine with that.
But we need to get back to, like, some sense of decorum or manners.
And like, I don’t care what class you are, they’re there for a reason.
4:25
And I’m not talking about all manners, but like, you know, we don’t need to go back to like, the Victorian era where you need to drop a calling card during certain hours of the day.
But OK, get your fucking elbows off the table, OK, I will.
4:42
I’m going to direct you towards Emily Post.
It’s acceptable when you’re not being served.
If you see me within like, a foot of you, you should have your fucking elbows on the table because I have to put your glass down.
I can’t put your glass down.
I can’t put your plates down.
4:58
I can’t serve you if you’re sitting there with like, your hands in your fucking your your head in your hands and you’re like hovering over your plate or whatever, and I can’t.
And people will get irritated because, like, they’re talking, but they just ordered a drink from you.
5:14
You need to, like, put it down.
And you’re not going to, like, sit there until you get to the climax of the conversation.
So there’s like a lot of that crap like going on and like, people just like shoving menus at you or trying to hand you things while you have a piece of paper and pen in your hand and you’re writing something down.
5:33
And they’re like waving the menu at you to, like, take it.
And it’s like, yes, I’m going to take your menu, but I’m in the middle of writing down, like, everything that you just requested to modify on this dish.
Or I’ll have my tablet in hand doing that.
And I was just getting, like, so fucking frustrated.
5:50
And I was, like, you are nouveau riche.
Like you’ve got the purses with the big labels on them, like, just trying to, like, blast your wealth.
But you have, like, absolutely no idea how to act wealthy.
And it drives me nuts.
It drives me fucking nuts, dude.
6:07
Like, get your goddamn, like, elbows off the table.
Don’t ask me what I like at a fucking restaurant, like and like.
Make me explain the dishes I like.
Ask me a million questions and then order something else like.
6:24
Right.
Like, I mean, like I’m a professional.
I will say that there’s one thing like old money rich people do really well and that is recognizing that that whoever they’re talking to, even though they’re not at their station, is an expert at whatever they’re doing.
6:41
So you tell somebody that, like, hey, this is really good today.
I really like this.
They’ll be like, Oh yeah, I’m going to get that.
Or they’ll be like, you know, it’s not really my style.
But they’re not going to be, like, upset that you describe something that they don’t like and then get pissed at you.
6:57
Or, like, they’ll ask you a million questions and, like, cut you off and start talking over you.
And then be like, I don’t know, what should I, what should I get?
And I’m like, I don’t know.
I just described 5 different things to you and you’re throwing a menu in my face while I’m trying to write your order down.
I don’t know.
7:12
I don’t know.
So it was like a lot of that shit, man.
And I just like need people to like, get back to like just common sense, like some manner, some sense of decorum.
Like, I’m a human being and I have other tables to take care of besides you.
7:32
And like, it is not OK for you guys to all just like, start shouting at me, shouting at each other that you want something.
And then being like, arguing with somebody else about whether or not they’re ready to order or not.
And then having to turn into like a whole fucking situation.
7:51
Like that’s totally inappropriate.
And normally it doesn’t bother me, but it was just so much going on in Austin this weekend.
And I was like, I was like, I don’t understand people like.
And I get a lot of like, I don’t know if this is like a new thing or if this is just like the area I’m living in, but people are really fucking rude all the time now.
8:15
I think it is everywhere it’s.
And yeah, it’s not like a young kids thing where like their parents didn’t just give them manners, but I get a lot of give me or get me or go get me like type of things and all.
8:33
I think that’s really weird.
Like, I’ve never experienced that until I moved here where people will be like can I have this or whatever.
It’s all about tone of voice.
Like even if you’re not saying please and thank you, when you just start shouting orders at me, like go get me or give me, like give me, give me the steak.
8:54
And I’m like, what?
That’s just, I don’t know, dude, Did you have that problem when you were in the fucking you were in like working in the museum and stuff like that and having people just be like kind of super fucking rude about everything, Like you can read their minds.
9:15
You know, the museum, it was a kind of a different environment there were it was weird because like.
There was the menu like the boards hanging up of what you can get, what your ticket prices and all that.
9:35
And like they would come up there and be like what ticket can I get?
And it’s like you just stood in line for all that time and you didn’t look up there and now you want me to stand here and explain it and hold everybody up And I could never understand like.
9:53
Why don’t you look at that shit before you even come here?
Before I go to anywhere, whether it’s a restaurant I never been to, even if it’s a restaurant I’ve been to before, I look at the menu.
I want to know, like, what is available if I’m going to a museum I’ve never been to, especially a big one I’m going to.
10:13
Look at all the options.
That way I could get in there and get started, You know so and also it was still like Pandemic.
So it was, you know, because we had masks sometimes, like off and on while I was there.
10:33
So it was always a fight about that, depending on what region of the United States people were from, you know, people who came from cities, they were like whatever, you know, it’s a thing, but like people from fucking Florida.
Drove me insane.
10:49
And Texas.
And it’s like, I don’t know what to tell you.
I don’t make these laws, you know?
But like, please and thank you.
People don’t do that shit anymore.
Which I’m like, that is the simplest thing you can do to just be kind of nice for just to be acceptable in public.
11:08
Say please and thank you and hello.
I hate when people just come up.
Can I get blah blah blah?
How about hi?
Can I have blah blah blah?
You know, Yeah, it’s all that tone of voice for me.
Not like shouting at somebody, like they’re not a person.
11:25
It’s, I don’t it’s very, very weird to me.
I don’t understand.
I I would have to say like I think my, like top five and maybe this will veer off.
And I just want to clarify that like, this isn’t all about my work this weekend.
11:43
This is just everything I’ve learned in like fucking 25 years, 20 years in the service industry.
I don’t even know at this point this is general things.
Is the fish fishy?
What does that even fucking mean?
OK, that’s number one.
11:59
Is the fish fishy that is like, first of all, like it’s?
Fish.
Fish like it’s fish.
It’s gonna taste like fucking fish.
I understand that they all taste different, but like, if you have like some kind of guttural reaction to the flavor of fish, like, don’t order fish.
12:19
It’s like not that big of a deal.
Or, you know, that’s one thing that pisses me off.
Another thing that pisses me off is when people come in and like bitch about the prices and it’s like I didn’t make you come here.
I don’t set the prices.
12:36
I just work here like and I bring the food out and I try to like should.
Have looked at the menu before.
Yeah.
And they’ll be like, you know, they’ll just be like asking things and they’ll be like, well, it, you know, just this 36 dollars include.
12:54
And they’ll like put in something pithy, like like some some kind of fucking dad joke about like does this $30 include my ride home or something like that, like or whatever.
You know, you get that kind of shit.
And it’s like, yeah, dude, I guess that it’s expensive.
13:09
And I have empathy for that.
But you’re also like kind of making it my fault.
And it’s not like my fault that we’re all on the runaway economy right now and we’re all poor.
Sorry, man.
Like, I can’t sit here and talk to you about this for like an hour.
13:25
That really annoys me and it annoys me when I bring out silverware for the table.
And again, usually with elbows on the table.
And I’m trying to like, Mark with everything, whether you need like, a seafood fork, like or a spoon or a dessert spoon or something.
13:46
And people will like, pick up the stuff I just put down and, like, use it for their drink or something.
And like, they’ll start like, using it for all different things that, like, it wasn’t created for.
14:01
And I’m not talking about, oh, you’re using the wrong fork.
It’s like, they’ll pick up, like, I’ll drop off a soup spoon and they’ll, like, pick up the soup spoon, put it in their water, scoop a bunch of the ice out, throw the spoon on the table, and then, like, be mad when they don’t have a soup spoon for their soup cores.
14:23
Like, that’s really annoying.
And I get annoyed when, like, OK, sometimes people don’t want to talk to you as a server.
And I am a professional in that we have these things called dining queues.
And yes, they’re different all across the world.
If you don’t want to fucking talk to me, you don’t have to talk to me at all.
14:42
Except for when you’re placing your order, because you’ll put your fork in your knife a certain way when you’re ready to be cleared, I don’t feel like.
Nobody knows the knife and fork thing.
Yeah.
And it’s.
I feel like this is what gets to me the most.
15:00
It’s like if you’re a nouveau riche, you go in there and, like, start treating people like crap and you don’t use your cues like putting your napkin where it’s supposed to go and you’ve left the table for a break, like, to use the restroom or something versus putting your napkin on the table a certain way because you’re finished.
15:18
People who don’t know how to do that shouldn’t have to, not shouldn’t be given the luxury of not speaking to their server.
Because then I have to ask you, may I clear for you?
Or when I come up to the table and I’m like, are you still enjoying?
15:34
And they’re like, yeah, this is great.
And I’m like, OK, cool.
And then I walk away and then they’re like, pissed that I didn’t take your plate.
Well, you told me you were still eating.
That’s what that.
Means like things like that.
And I’m like, if you’re going to talk to me, I am trained with like out even missing a beat.
15:54
I will sit here and like not fucking talk to you and get you ever you need without having to interact with me at all.
So you can have an experience, but you got to learn your cues.
It’s called nonverbal communication people and like, that’s the old money people I never have that fucking problem with.
16:12
It’s people that like just became rich.
Like, yeah, in the last generation or just recently that are like, oh, I’m so bougie girl, it drives me nuts.
It drives me so nuts.
Like, I don’t know, it’s that kind of crap.
16:29
But I am out of rants.
I’m gonna, I I will come back to this ’cause I’m sure as we continue talking like, I will start having like Vietnam, like flashbacks to, like horrible things that I have seen people do.
But it was just like one of those things.
16:47
And like this weekend too, I started noticing like, just around town that, like, fillers for men are starting to become more popular.
And I’m like, oh, can we not do this?
Like, I already think that for the most part they don’t look very good on women.
17:06
But like seeing a guy’s face like, filled to shit looks like super weird.
Because I’m pretty sure those doctors don’t know what they’re doing like, or they’re if they’re going to like a Med spa or something.
I’m like, it almost looks like they’re getting their face treated in a way that, like, doesn’t really align with what their ideal face should look like.
17:30
If you were to brush, such a thing existed.
And I’m like, you just look puffy, man.
You’ll be given out drinking all night long and you have like cortisol face.
I I don’t know what’s going on.
I just feel so like disconnected from reality this weekend.
17:48
And I heard Prince Harry was in town and I was like, well, I will keep my eyes peeled for Prince Harry.
I think it was hilarious that Joe sent that video of Prince Harry doing his thing in Austin.
18:07
I didn’t realize he has been.
Traveling all over the place these last few weeks and I don’t either.
There’s.
This the royal watch happening.
And everyone’s like, Oh my God, it cracks me up, dude.
18:23
I had no idea what was going on until he sent that.
And I was just like, if I run into Prince Harry, I’m straight up gonna be like, why are you here?
Like you can go anywhere, anywhere in the world and you’re fucking here right now.
Like, yeah.
18:38
Why Get out?
Get out as fast as you can, Oh no.
The F1 racing, that’s the longer cars, right?
Isn’t that like the European shit?
Yeah, it’s like the Fancier Racing.
18:54
OK, it’s still like brings in a bunch of annoying people.
I’m pretty sure that don’t live here.
So I was.
Europeans and no, I had like a bunch of people in from like, I don’t know, there are people in from all over the place and like a lot of them were like crabby.
19:11
They’re like, we’ve been in the F1 all day.
We’re hot.
We’re so hot.
We’re so hot.
We’re tired.
We need to eat.
And I’m like, Oh my God, poor baby, like we should hit you.
It was just like a hostility, like people were just annoyed after they left that race and then they came, you know, I was just interacting with really weird people and I was just like the energy in the city is like already I think the energy, everything where is already weird.
19:40
And then I was just like, I don’t need all this extra energy.
It just felt like everybody was confused and slightly out of their mind this weekend.
Everybody felt super tense and everybody was putting their fucking oysters.
19:56
They’re eating oysters on their appetizer plates.
Put them back in the ice, dude.
I cannot fucking stack all of those plates when you put a bunch of fucking oysters on them.
20:13
Plus they have this big bucket with half melted ice.
Now don’t do that.
And if you order mussels and I give you a discard bowl and I say here’s a discard bowl for your shells, don’t.
Take.
Everybody’s plate off the fucking table and start using that for your fucking shells while your bowl sits empty.
20:37
So now I have to try and clear all of your plates with all of these fucking shells on them and I can’t like get them without them teetering everywhere.
Like, that is why I brought you a discard bowl, OK?
You don’t need to like dirty multiple plates that don’t even fucking belong to you, but fucking muscle shells.
20:59
Why?
Why?
Like, I don’t, I don’t understand.
Like just put the shit back in the salt or the ice and use like the discard bowls when they’re provided and I can take everything in one shrimp and I’ll be the fuck out of your way.
21:15
You will never have to look at my ugly fat ass ever again.
Why would they want to make your life easier?
Just makes me angry.
It just makes me angry.
And like, normally shit doesn’t bother me.
It doesn’t bother me at all.
It’s like part of the job.
21:31
And I actually really love my job.
And like most people that come in are cool as fuck.
And I know not everybody knows shit, but like, I don’t like it when you’re being rude to me because you think you’re better than me.
And then you do all of this shit and I’m like, you don’t even have manners.
21:48
Someone send me a Pritzker or Rockefeller to wait on.
I’m sure they’re a fucking dream.
Actually, the Pritzkers are a fucking dream to wait on.
They’re the nicest people ever, at least to the service staff.
I appreciate that.
22:04
But we’re nice in Chicago, Texas.
You know, I mean, they, I don’t think the fact that they don’t have the rich, the type of wealth that Chicago has plays a big part of it.
22:21
I could see Dallas knowing a little bit better, maybe Houston because of the oil people.
But Austin has always been kind of like before this boom, it was like just the weird place, the weird place in Texas, you know?
22:40
So they’re going to have to learn now that they have money in town.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Like, I would like a draft beer, but like a local one.
It’s like, all of our beers are local.
22:56
There’s like 500 breweries here, bro.
Pick one.
They’re all hazy.
Ipas your favorite?
I mean, I feel like there’s a lot of fucking money in in Texas and there are some really wealthy people.
23:17
But I just, I think it is a lot different.
Like in the city that I’m in where it’s like, I mean, I’m sure it would be different if I was like dealing with some of the people that had like older money or like under you know, whatever.
23:33
But I’m just like dude, you have a Tesla.
I am not impressed.
And that is the other thing is like.
When I moved here, I did not think that I was going to have to worry at least once or twice a week about getting run over by a fucking Tesla.
23:49
Specifically, specifically a Tesla.
A Tesla.
Oh, I like that.
Did not think that would be a reality.
And Derek introduced me to something really awesome because he he drives the company cars, so he’s on camera all the time.
24:08
In his car and like if there’s an event like he brakes too fast or something, it’ll like send the five seconds before the event, what happens during the event and like 5 seconds after the event to their office.
So if like you were distracted driving or on the phone or something like really big trouble.
24:26
So I was in the car with him the other day and somebody like almost killed us as per huge when we’re on 183 or any other Rd. here.
And Derek just like, opens the window and goes like this and gives a thumbs up to the guy.
24:44
And I was like, did you just thumbs up that guy?
And he’s like, yeah, dude, he was like, I can’t flip people off when I’m in the company car.
So I just like, thumbs up.
Everybody aggressively thumbs up, Yes.
25:00
So.
I was like, that is so much worse than being flipped off.
Like I’m patronizing Thumbs up.
So I started, I was like, I’m going to try this.
25:16
I started doing this now to people when they’re like.
Are being Dicks.
I like totally do that to them.
And I like thumbs up them like real hard.
It’s so cathartic, dude.
Like nothing can make you feel stupider than having like a total stranger or give you like a sarcastic thumbs up.
25:37
Like yeah, you failed.
Just failed at lifing and driving and like everything today, so.
That is where I’m finding my joy.
This week is like aggressively thumbs upping people that have been pissing me off.
I’m just like, yes, I fucking love it.
25:59
Girl, the next time you drive, you got to try it.
Like, I totally recommend it.
It’s really funny.
I will.
I can already see the face.
I’m going to do like a I love that.
26:17
Oh girl.
Well, that’s like my rant.
It wasn’t as structured as I wanted.
And I just want to say this is a collection of things I’ve experienced in the industry over 25 years, no specific businesses particularly targeted.
26:35
It’s real hard to deal with the public.
Yeah, so.
I don’t know.
It felt like everybody this weekend, though, is feeling super off.
Like, how have you been?
I know you said you’ve been in your hole, but things just feel weird this weekend.
26:52
I don’t like it, you know.
I wasn’t sure if it was like the universe, if it was because like, it was my birthday and I feel some kind of way right now.
Girl, can we talk about your birthday?
27:09
I want to hear everything that you did for your birthday.
But yes, I’m sorry.
Yeah, I I didn’t do shit for my birthday.
I all week was alternating between being like positive and just like about the future and crying because everything sucks and my back has been messed up.
27:32
It like it’s doing it’s going out thing again.
So like I couldn’t do what I wanted to do because like physically my body was killing me.
But Rudy was really sweet and like, he bought me some flowers today, but he bought me some chocolates over the weekend.
27:56
And we do we watch scary movies.
I finally watch Insidious, which was really good.
Was it?
I’ve never seen it.
Yeah, the guy who does all The Conjuring movies did that movie.
28:12
That movie sounds scary, and I’ve never wanted to see it because I thought it might really scare me.
The Conjuring is so good.
Like, those are the kind of scary movies I like.
I’m not into gore.
I love hauntings, exorcisms, all that good shit like that is my jam.
28:34
Stabby stabby.
No, that’s gross.
I mean, I’ll watch it, but that’s not my go to.
But Insidious was perfect.
It was like this kid, he can astral project and he fucking got lost and this demon is like trying to take over his body.
28:55
So I don’t.
Think I could watch that, but I think growing up in like a high control religious group or like in my childhood was like I felt like I was getting told about demons all of the time and like spiritual warfare and like like all that kind of stuff.
29:18
And I would probably have like an instant panic attack watching something like that.
Like I.
I know that that’s not rational for anybody else, but like for people who have grown up in like, you know, high control religious environments where people are like the demons are going to get you, you know what I mean?
29:39
Like you have like these super fucking crazy fears about that And I I still find that like super triggering.
I’m like, have you ever watched The Exorcist like the OG one?
Nope, Nope.
29:54
I got grounded once for going to go see the Exorcist even though I didn’t go see it.
I went to a party at a friend’s house and like spent the night or something and I told my parents I went to go see the Exorcist because this was re released in like 2000.
30:12
And my mom was like, what?
What did you guys do?
And I was like, oh, we went and saw The Exorcist, and I got grounded.
I still haven’t seen it.
Like, I don’t have the balls to go see that movie.
But I’ve been punished for seeing it.
I don’t think I can handle it, dude.
I think I would lose my.
I I think I would lose my cool.
30:29
I don’t.
I don’t think I’ve.
I’ve developed.
I don’t think I’ve healed enough to be able to go on that journey.
I wonder, ’cause it’s an older movie, so it, I don’t know.
30:47
It’s not that it’s campy, but it has like.
Like, it feels more campy in hindsight.
Yeah.
I mean, when I first watch it as like a 1213 year old, I was like, whoa, you know?
But then when I’ve watched it as an adult, I’m like, OK, you know, it’s like, it’s fine.
31:07
I think The Omen is really scary.
But yeah, like, I mean that is a really fucked up possession in that movie and it’s pretty scary still.
I think it holds up.
So yeah, it may not be for.
31:24
You.
Yeah.
I don’t think it’s for me.
I I mean, if there are other people out there that have, like really fucking weird anxiety about like things like that, let us know in the comments, because sometimes I feel like I’m alone.
Yeah, maybe you do too.
31:42
But, like, I’m sure like Speaking of like weird things going on, I am sure that there are a bunch of people from like the ex evangelical, whatever you want to call it, like no longer practicing like crazy right wing Christian community that are like having hardcore rapture anxiety right now and like are freaking out about the end times like.
32:08
I’m like worried about my people and I’m not talking about like, the people that are like, I’m talking about the people that like left the church.
You know what I mean?
And are like I’m like y’all OK Like I’m sure that even though you’ve healed like you have some of this like lingering like fear going on and have probably every plot line from like the left behind books and like plus.
32:36
Just revelations in general, like just running on repeat in your head right now and like take a deep breath.
Everybody is going to be OK We ground ourselves and we’re going to get through this.
But I just want to like point out that I see you, we’re going to be fine.
32:55
Like we’re going to haven’t seen the increase on YouTube.
Every now and then I’ll get a pop up of some random tribal thumper.
The End Times is coming, blah blah blah blah blah blah shit.
And I’m like, oh man, these people are getting excited about this.
33:14
Yeah, there’s like one group of people that’s getting excited.
And then there’s everybody else that has been like the rest of the world like.
Fucking traumatized by this.
Like when I was a kid, I would if I could not find my parents, I would start freaking out because.
33:35
I would think they got raptured and I got left behind.
Oh my.
God, like.
And I found out that it’s like, not just me.
Like a bunch of other people that grew up in these fucking groups still have those problems.
33:50
And like, I went through a period of time where, like, I would just be like, I could think of nothing else but the end times and the raptured.
I was like convinced I was going to get left behind.
Like all this other stuff and like it was going to be chaos and like and I was never going to be saved or good enough.
34:10
And like it was so fucking scary because like I don’t, you don’t shouldn’t tell kids about that shit.
Like don’t tell your kids about that shit.
Like I first of all, it’s like bunk psychology or not.
Bunk psychology, bunk theology, like the whole, like.
34:29
The people who wrote the Left Behind books and like based it on like a very new theology about an interpretation of revelation.
And it’s definitely super SUS.
So it doesn’t even fit in with the entire, like, you know, religious tradition to begin with.
34:49
But we have like a whole industry around it now, and I just remember being fucking terrified all the time.
Like that the Rapture is going to happen at any minute.
And it did not help that those books were like took place literally a block away from where we grew up.
35:09
So, like, crazy.
Yeah, dude, like between that and then 911 happening like right after that and.
Because like that golf course that was out by us, there was also an Army Reserve.
35:24
So sometimes you would just see tanks rolling through.
I was always like, it’s happening.
It’s happening like all the time.
Like it was like my whole nervous system was on like hyperdrive.
And like you just get, you’re just scared all the time.
35:43
And then like sometimes we’d have fighter jets going over our house.
And like like I remember after 911 that happened and like.
I girl, I can’t even go to the air and water show in Chicago.
Like I don’t want to be anywhere near it.
I will just start having panic attack after panic attack after panic attack Air and water shows going on in Chicago like and all of it is because of this fucking end Times bullshit.
36:09
Don’t do this to your kids, guys.
This is like a fucking public service announcement and your kids deserve to like.
Live a life where they’re not worried about, like demons attaching themselves to your clothing and whatever the fuck else.
36:25
And like the rapture happening and people breaking out in boils and the waters turning to blood and like Armageddon, let them get to adulthood or have them.
I don’t know.
Whatever.
Just don’t tell your kids about this shit.
36:40
It’s that simple.
I’m just leave it at that.
Do you have anything you want to add?
Wild Fest?
I mean, that’s terrifying for a child.
I can’t even imagine.
I it’s like, blows my mind just how different my upbringing was.
36:59
Just cause no religion, the religious stuff like really does a number on people.
It really does.
And I don’t think that religion is always, like, expressly bad, but like, I think growing up in like a super politically motivated, like like evangelical tradition that I think has more to do with politics and control than it does with like, somebody’s way that they’re living their life.
37:30
You know I don’t.
I think that’s like more damaging.
Like I know a lot of people that like grew up Presbyterian or Catholic or whatever and like or Jewish or, you know, whatever.
And like that’s always been like that’s their faith.
37:46
But like they’re like still living their lives.
You know what I mean?
Like they have their own thoughts, their own like life.
And it’s not something where it’s like everything turns into some kind of, like weird fear based, yeah.
38:02
You know, industry, I hate to call it an industry.
I don’t hate to call it an industry.
It is.
It is an industry.
I mean it’s what are the, you know they that you got the people on TV who used to constantly beg for.
38:18
Oh my God.
Like, get a fucking airplane and shit.
Like, yeah, yeah, it’s like for it’s a for profit industry.
It 100% is.
And I I had treatment today and I try like when I have a ketamine treatment, I try really hard to just like be a chill for the rest of the day.
38:41
And I.
I got into an Uber because I can’t drive home like what I mean.
And the guy that picked me up was listening to worship music and I wanted to take a melon baller and like, fucking gouge my own eyes out.
38:58
I was like, it’s so triggering to me and it’s like a very specific style of like music.
It’s like what you hear in the mega churches because like, I like gospel.
I like.
Like all kinds of music.
39:14
But like I can’t do that like mega church kind of worship music stuff.
It is just so it makes me like physically ill and I was like, man, you’re crushing my vibes right now and who wants to like, I think it’s really rude to play religious music when you are in a fucking car with a passenger.
39:36
Like, I think that’s really these people do not care.
I, you know, ’cause I don’t have a car, I Uber a lot, a lot of religious music I’ve heard.
I like when I get in and it’s gospel.
I love gospel.
You know, there’s a lot of people who don’t want to hear anything about God or whatever, but I’m into it.
39:58
I don’t like that the mega church music is fucking.
I don’t know.
It’s, it’s.
Objectively bad music.
Like, it all sounds the same.
And I remember when people thought that was like, edgy.
40:13
They’re like, oh, it’s modern worship music and like, there’s guitars, but I’m like, well, what are you doing with them?
Like, this sounds horrible.
If there is one song that I can think of that probably makes me the most anxious and disgusted, it’s that our God is an awesome God song.
40:36
Do you know that our God is an awesome God?
He reigns from heaven above with wisdom, power, and love.
Our God is an awesome God.
OK.
That’s like a total.
Banger.
40:52
Our total.
It’s a total banger in the EV.
The EV circuit.
Man, that one brings the house down every time I.
Just picture a bunch of, like, white blonde girls.
41:07
That’s exactly what it is.
And there’s hands in the air and they’re like, yes, Oh my God.
And like, I used to be one of those people, you know what I mean?
But it’s it’s so gross and triggering and I’m like, and it’s objectively bad music.
41:28
Like, it’s not good.
I don’t know where these people learned music, but they keep making records, man, They keep making records.
So one time I went to a mega church.
I know I’ve told you this story, but I find it fucking hilarious.
41:46
My dad is an atheist hardcore, not budging on this shit, OK?
And has been my whole life.
For some reason, when I was, I don’t know, I had to be like maybe eighth grade.
42:05
I was old enough to know what the fuck was happening.
My dad took us to Willow Creek, me and my brother, and met up with this chick there and I was like we are literally on a date right now and I fucking.
42:26
Church what?
What is my dad thinking?
Clearly it didn’t work out because I was the one and only time I ever saw that girl, and I think probably the church situation freaked my dad out.
Yeah, because going to Willow Creek is fucking creepy.
42:42
That’s why it was.
Weird.
It was so weird and I felt like everybody around me was in some kind of trance.
Yes.
And IA different wavelength, dude.
It was a different wavelength and the thing that like scared me the most about it and I couldn’t like really articulate it because like, I wasn’t scared at the time.
43:04
I was raised in that tradition and like the church that I went to before Willow Creek was like a smaller church.
But like my parents have always been like super into like, well, I shouldn’t say my parents.
43:19
I should say my dad’s side of the family has always been in the Super right wing version of like, Christianity.
And so that’s always been the tradition and it was just normal, you know what I mean?
But I would notice, like there were a lot of people whose eyes were like, dead.
43:38
Dead.
Like nothing is there.
That’s exactly what I was just thinking.
Very dead behind the eyes and very much a pack mentality.
Everybody’s the same, wearing the same type of clothes, same haircuts and but you could see it was like, also about money.
44:00
Oh yeah, it was like a playground for rich people.
It had a Starbucks in there.
You can go get your pancake breakfast and like, the way that they treated people when 2008 happened made me so mad because like they like got rid of everybody’s health benefits and stuff.
44:18
And I’m like, you guys are still a fucking church.
Like you shouldn’t be doing like the corporate things.
You should be doing like the Christ, like things for the people that work for you.
But when they’re like keeping people’s hours just below where they can’t get like insurance, like that kind of stuff, it’s all about money.
44:40
And I feel like going to that church is like all about being seen and like, it’s it’s so gross, dude, it’s.
So gross.
And I do think that church has always been a place to be seen.
45:02
And to compare yourself to others, this is something I’ve noticed a lot about people who are like super religious or have been in like, the cult, one of the cults, ’cause they’re all cults.
To me it’s a very judgmental place and.
45:23
Everybody is constantly like.
Looking to see how they compare to other people and like that makes for very fucked up adults.
It totally does.
45:42
If you constantly are spending your time judging ’cause, then you’re judging and you’re criticizing, which then you’re like, I’m not enough ’cause they have this, they have that.
And so it builds into a lack of self-confidence You and that makes you stay in the fucking cult that you’re in.
46:03
You know?
It’s that is totally valid.
And I think when it comes with the judging and criticizing, it’s just a thought that popped into my head.
Like I don’t think now is the time or place to have like a full on redux about like everything I’ve experienced in the church.
46:22
Maybe we’ll get into that some other time.
But these are just the Nuggets.
But something I did notice was like, so yeah, it’s all about judging and whatever.
And I think a lot of the problem is like a lot of these people don’t actually come right out and say like what their theology is like.
46:44
I think some mega, like, mega church pastors, some of them don’t even have, like, theology degrees.
They don’t have like.
Crazy.
Yeah.
And like a lot of the times.
Or like, they won’t have like gone to a seminary.
I don’t.
I don’t know what Bill Hybels’s deal is, besides the fact that he got, like, fired from his own church.
47:03
Being pervert.
But like, I’ve noticed with these, like charismatic church leaders that a lot of them are kind of like, to quote Sarah Palin, mavericky, where they just sort of like, pick and choose certain things and then they’ll like, expound on an idea.
47:25
And like a lot of the times, it’s just like their own thoughts.
And it doesn’t have any basis in like the tradition or it’s just what they think and their interpretation of things.
And that can be used as a weapon.
So it’s like you can look at the same Bible verse and like one week it’ll mean this, but it’ll also really mean this.
47:46
So like, if you’re dealing with like a church disciplinary board or you’re trying to get, like, support from your small group or something like, depending on whoever’s interpreting that, they can be like, Oh, well, this is the biblical way to do things.
And like, you’re not reading this, right?
48:04
Like, that spirit is like, that’s not the Holy Spirit.
That’s like telling you to do this.
It’s like you need to do it this way, You know, insert whatever scenario.
And that can be really used as a weapon to, like, beat people into submission, like mentally and gaslight them.
48:20
And like once you go through that for like a long enough time, you just start gaslighting yourself because that’s how your brain is wired.
And that’s why they like kids in the youth group, like the neuroplasticity.
They’re young.
Like they can train them to like think that way.
48:36
And I think that’s really dangerous.
And I also think what’s really dangerous is that I see like a very big similarity between how mega churches and like the Super culty, like right wing underbelly of like the fundamentalist Christian movement is similar to corporation.
48:54
Because you kind of have the same, the same thing with like their values that are like vague enough that they can twist them to like suit the scenario and whatever they want to do to justify their actions and like what they expect from you.
49:12
And I don’t like that.
There is like a huge crossover between I feel like the church and like a lot of corporations, they roll the same way.
And that’s like really concerning to me.
Like not only do I want a separation of church and Stay, but I want a separation of like Church and the marketplace as well.
49:33
Well, it reminds me of some different things I’ve read.
But in the 1800s, you know, the South has always been all about going to church, whatever.
49:50
So in the South.
The whites, because we know slavery is happening, they were going to church and they were read different kinds of Bible passages that talked about how slavery is OK.
50:10
They justified slavery in the churches throughout the S 100% and people don’t know.
Sorry interrupt, but part of the reason why we have such an overlap with like politics and religion is because of school integration in the South and people trying to use the Bible to say that it’s like biblical to have segregated schools and they got people involved that way.
50:42
Anyways, continue.
Well, I, you know, slavery was.
For business, the only reason you know these all these plantation owners own people was so they could make money and not have to pay anyone.
51:03
So I feel like the fact that these evangelical churches are very corporatized it their roots are in slavery and in.
Corporate endeavors.
It may, you know, look different back then.
51:19
But if you own a huge plantation and you have hundreds of people working on your plantation, you are a corporate entity, you know, So I think that people need to look up some history and realize, like, it’s always about money.
51:39
Yeah, girl, you’re totally right.
I would have never thought of that.
That’s a really good point.
I think that’s really interesting.
Your religion is not a faith, it is a corporation.
It is a political lobby and a corporation.
51:59
I mean, you look at the fucking the witch hunts.
It was always, maybe it started off with that person as a witch, but if you look at like the Salem Witch trials, for example, oh, that was it.
All had to do with that is mine.
52:18
They won’t give it to me.
You’re a witch.
So, like to me, religion is always used.
In different ways, it’s manipulated for money, which is like the opposite of Jesus, right?
Like it’s a 100% the opposite of Jesus.
52:35
And it’s like, I don’t understand.
I mean, I do understand from an academic point of view where all of this comes from.
But, like, from an emotional point of view, I don’t understand how people can know about Jesus and read the New Testament and like, look at what he did in his lifetime, whether you believe it’s true or not.
53:01
But like, if you were to sit down and, like, read that book in the New Testament or read any of the Gospels and be like, do you know what we should do?
We should close down our borders, treat immigrants like shit, stop paying people a decent wage, and, like, not pay taxes.
53:18
And we should, like, blow people up too, because that’s what Jesus would have wanted.
I’m like, I don’t understand how you got there.
Like, I don’t understand how you can believe in your heart that that is like what Jesus was about.
And like, I know that it’s much more complicated than that.
Don’t get me started on Paul.
53:35
Don’t get me started on, like, the newer books and like Revelations and all that stuff.
But, like, I don’t understand how somebody can come away with, like, that’s what Jesus would have wanted based just specifically on the accounts of his life.
Like, it makes no sense to me.
53:52
But I mean, academically, I understand that this is something that has been repeating over and over in history, and I understand how we got to where we are today and why people think that.
But I don’t understand how somebody can like themselves in the mirror and be like, yeah, that’s that feels true to me.
54:13
Like, I know a lot of people are really scared.
And I think that that whole system is just, I do have empathy for people who like, want to believe and like are in these religious traditions and a lot of them are running on pure fear and fumes and that’s it.
54:32
And like, I don’t think that’s a good way for somebody to live.
I don’t like, excuse their life choices or like, but some of them are suffering and like they’re also a victim of, like, this huge system that I think is very predatory.
And they’re afraid to engage with the idea that like, oh, this could be not right, you know, And that’s what concerns me a lot.
54:57
I like worry about people who I think, you know, know in their hearts that like, they’re something’s not right and they like, can’t, they can’t get out.
Like mentally, they just can’t get out.
But like.
Well, how do you deconstruct?
55:15
I mean, you’ve been through this.
How do you break out and deconstruct from that?
And especially if you are a person who always plays by the rules And that was me.
55:32
And plus it was like super fucking mentally ill too because of a lot of the stuff and like other things that were happening in my life.
And it is fucking hard.
And I’m going to say, like, the unpopular thing right now.
Like, I was raised in a tradition where, like, there’s really no other way to say it.
55:57
But, like, I was raised like, hate certain kinds of people, you know and like, given tools to to, you know, tell myself that that’s not like, hating somebody, you know, because, like, that’s God’s love or whatever.
56:13
And like that not really sitting right with me, but also feeling like I had to be a certain way.
And like, this is something I don’t know if like, anybody wants to engage with.
And like, I had not had like, a lot of really fucking patient friends that weren’t like that, that sat there and like talked to me like I was a human being and like, engaged with me mentally.
56:37
And we’re just like, we had conversations and like they pushed my boundaries, but in a respectful way where they weren’t like talking to me like I was a fucking idiot or like whatever.
And like, you know, they engaged me.
56:54
And I had a lot of people over a lot of years having like really fucking hard conversations with me where we could talk about different ideas.
And like, it didn’t happen overnight.
It took like a number of years where I was like, Oh my God, like were.
57:10
These people that you were in the cult with, or were they outsiders, outsiders.
And that’s a thing.
Like, I’m so thankful.
There’s like a handful of folks that I’m like super thankful to.
I didn’t even talk to you anymore.
57:26
That like if they had not been there to be like kind of questioning some of the things I was feeling and like the stuff that I just took for granted that I was raised that way with I wouldn’t be who I am now.
Like.
And I know that a lot of people think it’s like a lost cause, but like there are lines there, you know, you can’t like, save everybody.
57:51
But I really appreciate the fact that there were people that were willing to have that, that kind of discourse with me.
And, like, it did really get me thinking, you know?
And I realized like a lot of the stuff that I was feeling was like fear.
58:07
And I was no, I wasn’t experiencing my life.
Like I wasn’t taking the life lessons that I was getting and like learning wisdom from them.
I was just afraid all the time.
And like, once I became less afraid and was able to experience, I started realizing that the things that people were saying to me made more sense than what I was raised to think and what I was indoctrinated with.
58:34
And I feel like we need a lot more of that.
I think we need to talk to people like they’re humans, and I feel like we can maybe help some of them.
I know it seems like a fool’s errand, but I think, like, if it’s a, you know, better world for everybody with people who are empowered and have empathy, you know, And if you can support somebody in that journey, like, I think we’re very into like, oh, everything needs to happen right away.
59:05
And like, this person needs to change right away.
Like, you can’t get like deprogrammed like that, like overnight.
But like, it’s just as, like gentle touches.
There was love and compassion and also questioning from other people that like, brought me out of it where I was like, Oh my God, the world is not as scary of a place that people made it out to be.
59:27
And it took a really fucking long time.
You know, I think it’s really hard to like as like a woman, if that makes any sense in some of these circles because like some of the cultiness like comes kind of from the family.
It’s almost like the father’s, like installed is like a cult.
59:47
It’s like a cult of the family where it’s.
Like, right.
He’s like the head.
He’s the boss.
He controls all of the things.
The women, they have children, they take care of the children.
Yeah, their job, yeah.
And when you’re like, everything is locked down, like in your house, like you.
1:00:07
You don’t have like, the freedom to interact with certain things that everybody else gets to do.
Like everything is being monitored.
You have no privacy, like, and you’re, you know, your media is monitored.
And like nothing you’re getting is from the outside.
1:00:24
That’s when like they start are able to kind of, like put ideas into you about like, really weird things.
And those you’re lucky you weren’t so you’re lucky you weren’t like.
Homeschooled dude.
1:00:40
Oh my God.
Yeah.
I mean, my parents were not.
I mean, I would say my dad was not like, as extreme as like, the quiver full movement.
So I don’t think we would have like been homeschooled and like.
1:00:57
Because that’s the popular thing.
Now they’re trying.
Oh, I know.
Oh, I know.
Public education, Yeah, that’s been going on for a really long time.
Like it.
I mean, I remember, like, when I was a kid, like being told, like, my teachers were bad because they were like, part of a Marxist agenda that was trying to, like make America not a Christian nation.
1:01:21
And that they’re trying to destroy the family.
And that’s why they’re there.
Like, like, I’m getting told this and I’m like, really literal, you know?
So, you know, I definitely like public education.
Even back in the 80s, I was hearing rhetoric about, like, this shouldn’t exist, Like, public education shouldn’t be a thing, like all that kind of stuff.
1:01:45
Like, that’s why I’m, like, so frustrated when I hear it in discourse now.
Because I’m like, well, I’ve been hearing this since the 80s and nobody’s done shit about fuck and like, look, here we are and like.
Forbid you get taught some science.
1:02:03
Oh my God, dude, when I so I was told that the earth was 6000 years old.
Jesus.
And that.
What about the dinosaurs?
1:02:19
Not real, no.
They were around at the same time.
So the code says it right.
Dinosaurs.
OK, right.
That’s what I said.
I was like, oh, do you think we rode them?
And you know, I got this like, really horrible look.
Like, how could you fucking?
1:02:37
I don’t.
I mean, that sounds like a fucking fever dream.
I want to be there.
I would ride a triceratops everywhere.
Yeah.
So I was told that, like, the earth was 6000 years old and it was covered in a water canopy and God burst the water canopy.
1:02:53
And that’s where the great flood came from.
I was like walking around telling people this shit because like that was what I was told happened.
Like evolution was not real.
Like I was told that they were like vans that like pull up at high schools that just take girls to go get abortions.
1:03:17
Like and that’s how they make all their money as abortionists.
And that like, you know, you can’t tell anybody too much because like the government wants to destroy the family because they’re like they’re in league with the rooskies.
1:03:32
You know, they want like a communist thing and they’re going to try and separate the families.
So like you can’t like complain about anything publicly.
So I mean it’s just really fucked up.
So like you’re a kid and you’re like set up with this idea that like everyone around you is evil and like out to get you.
1:03:52
And you’re part of this big like fucking conspiracy that is trying to like persecute the Christians.
And you have demons coming after you all the time.
And like, you know the government, you can’t trust them.
1:04:10
You can’t trust your teachers like it’s insane like.
Child abuse.
It is child abuse dude.
And then you like combine that with like all the anti woman shit that goes on in those circles where they’ll claim they’re feminists because they love what God like made in a woman.
1:04:34
And that they actually love women because they, you know, women are nurturers and they’re thankful for that.
Like that kind of thing.
It’s fucking crazy.
Like it was like when I was about, I think things started like really, like, crumbling when I was like moved out, when I was like 18 and I started just realizing I had like no coping skills, like nothing.
1:05:05
And then as I got older, like a couple years older, I just realized like, my body was on fire all of the time, You know what I mean?
It was like my amygdala is like constantly firing and I’m in a state of like fight or flight all the time.
1:05:20
Like I was really scared of everything.
Like, I didn’t, I couldn’t life, like it didn’t make any sense.
And like I couldn’t figure out a career path either because like also we were a Dobson family and like James Dobson his whole dare to discipline thing.
1:05:42
Like his whole thing was that like all children are born with original sin and therefore they’re evil, so you so you must break their will and turn them into compliant citizens for the safety of their soul.
1:05:59
And that self esteem is actually like a form of sin.
That’s so, so fucking medieval, dude.
Like, I just got a flash of, like, the medieval paintings where the children look like just small adults.
1:06:16
Yes, they’re working.
That’s ’cause like when you are growing up in a household like that, you are not looked at like you are a person or a child with a developing brain.
You are looked at as though you are an uncompliant and inconvenient adult and you are expected to behave in a certain way.
1:06:39
And it’s really fucked up, dude.
It’s like super crazy.
And like it fucked me up like so bad.
Like I was like just dysregulated all the time, like hair trigger, temper, like it was awful.
1:06:57
And like, I feel for a lot of people because like, it is a fucking form of abuse, dude.
And like, I think if you layer like the Christianity and like religion on top of the fact that you have like this like it does, it’s like the family can become the cult, if that makes any sense.
1:07:15
And like, I just want to say God bless my mother.
My mom, like, does not believe in any of this shit.
So I just want to put that out there.
She’s a wonderful person, but like, I think she’s also gotten fucked over by the this environment in my personal opinion, or I should say this system in my personal opinion.
1:07:34
But that’s not my story to tell.
But I love my mom.
But yeah, it is fucking crazy.
Like it is a really fucking crazy.
And like I think as an adult sometimes I wonder like why it took me so long to get my shit together.
1:07:52
And I think a lot of it was because, like, I was never expected to do anything.
I don’t think or like my dad didn’t want me to do anything like.
Right.
You’re supposed to be a wife and a mother.
That is your role in life.
1:08:08
You were just there for children.
Like, he never said that to me.
Like, he wanted me to go to college.
But like, he didn’t want to have any conversations about my career path.
Like I couldn’t talk about that kind of stuff.
So I never really felt like set up.
1:08:24
Like nobody, like showed me like, oh, OK like, will you go to school and you do this and then that.
Like it was just like, you’re going to college.
And I was like, great.
I lasted 1 semester, ’cause I had a fucking mental breakdown like.
Good times.
1:08:41
Sorry.
I just like, rambled a lot.
But I just want to say like, I’m super thankful to like everybody that was there for me.
Like on my path, I don’t even talk to a lot of these people anymore.
But like, it will always hold like a place in my heart for like being patient with me and treating me like a person even though I wasn’t acting like one.
1:09:04
And like, I really hope like to be able to do that for other people, so.
Yeah, I mean, especially with everything that’s going on right now, you know, the United States is having this fight with.
1:09:22
Being this religious country versus this ultra liberal, I feel like it’s just this constant battle.
And then you have, you know, the whole Israel, Hamas situation, which is two groups of religious people who don’t look at each other as human beings and religion is used as a way to justify what they’re doing.
1:09:50
So I think that.
There’s a lot of people out there who’ve been brainwashed into violence and using God as the weapon.
Yeah dude, it’s such.
I feel like the violence is baked in totally.
1:10:07
Yeah, absolutely.
So, you know, I think that the more that we talk about this stuff and the more it gets out there, hopefully it will reach ears.
You know, I know there’s a lot of groups now that are like ex evangelicals out there that have shows and all that, which I’m sure if you would have had something like that when you were younger, probably would have been very useful, too.
1:10:36
It would have been.
And, like, I do listen to a lot of those shows.
Like, I like kitchen table cults a lot, ’cause even though I wasn’t like a quiver full, like, it wasn’t too that extreme.
There were like a lot of, like really similar things that I saw that I experienced and like, even as an adult that has been out of it, it’s like, really helped me process my trauma and like, been able to be like, oh, I’m validated.
1:11:03
Like these things did happen to me.
And I do think those shows are helpful.
They’re really helpful, like, for me.
So I hope it’s helpful.
But anyways, I keep cutting off.
I’m so sorry.
You’re all good, I think.
1:11:19
You know, I part of the trash parade is going to be talking about religion a lot.
You have a very particular background that a lot of Americans have.
And it’s not only the evangelicals.
1:11:35
I feel like there’s quite a few, I mean.
The Catholics aren’t as hardcore, but like we see all the corruption in their churches and these churches still exist.
They’re still not paying taxes.
New Orleans and Louisiana, basically, if you want to go to a good school, guess what, you’re going to a Catholic school.
1:11:56
So, you know, it has a big impact on people and we are also seeing right now and this is not all Catholics, OK, but we are seeing a rise in trad Catholicism and it’s like the Super right wing version of Catholicism.
1:12:20
And we’ve been there has been like a rise in that right now.
And it seems like some of those like very small like snippets of that community are starting to gain some political traction.
And that like concerns me and I’m like America, we’ve been here before.
1:12:40
Remember when we before we left England?
When we had the whole Protestants versus Catholic?
That worked out great.
They don’t remember because all of these people do not know American history.
They want to sit here and say American is America’s, this Christian nation.
1:12:58
So, like, look at the Founding Fathers, right?
Some of them were.
A lot of them were deists, which means they believe in God, but they don’t believe in the magic.
That’s why Thomas Jefferson wrote his own fucking version of the Bible.
1:13:15
I know, dude.
The Jefferson Bible was just like a cut and paste of the New Testament without any of the miracles, right?
That was essentially what it was, yeah, I think.
And George Washington was also in that boat.
1:13:32
Benjamin Frank.
Well, Benjamin Franklin I.
We need to do a whole show about that.
I would love to do a whole show on Benjamin Franklin.
Like, I feel like he’s the only one that earned the title.
Founding Daddy.
It’s interesting sexual proclivities.
1:13:54
I bet he.
I bet he really called me Daddy.
Yeah, I mean he he is the one founding father I would have partied with.
He would have been a good fucking time.
Do you think that he kept on his raccoon skin hat in France and he was partying in the Hellfire clubs while he was getting down with all these girls?
1:14:22
I feel like probably, I think.
Benjamin Franklin is probably the type who just went, went in Rome type of personality.
Yeah, he was into a lot of weird stuff, but also like, very into science.
1:14:42
Yeah, but yeah, you know, America is.
Not this Christian nation that they keep selling it all the like our money and God we trust that wasn’t on there until the 1950s.
1:15:03
A lot of this stuff is recent, and although religion has always been part of, I mean, it’s always been part of the world, you know, But people really need to actually look at our history and see why.
1:15:20
And politics.
Religion has mixed into that.
You can think again Thomas Jefferson and John Adams for that shit they started the fighting with.
You’re not religious enough to get enough O to be president.
Yeah, and here we are.
1:15:37
Right.
It never stops.
It makes me so angry.
I feel like religion has no place in a modern society unless you’re practicing it with spirituality.
And like.
1:15:53
I feel like spirituality, like, is different for everybody.
But I like for me, like, what I mean by that is just like a turning inward and like surveying of like how my soul feels, I guess on a day-to-day basis.
1:16:11
And I feel like if you’re just like following rules without thinking about them and you’re not like engaging with the world and engaging with your inner self while you’re doing that, it’s really just a bunch of rules that are really damaging.
1:16:27
I feel like it needs to be also like a conversation between you and the world and you and yourself.
Otherwise it’s just really fucking dangerous.
Like, I don’t begrudge anybody’s religion.
Like, practice whatever you want.
Like that’s cool.
1:16:43
But like, I do think it can be dangerous and it’s not for me so.
Absolutely.
I mean, mob mentality destroys a lot of shit and like, you know, my mom and my grandma are Lutherans, so I know a little bit about Martin Luther and I’ve always enjoyed the fact that.
1:17:09
His whole thing is like your connection to God is yours and like that is what it should be.
It is your connection and it’s a private matter.
There’s a lot of things in the world that are private fucking matters and everything has been like out in the open.
1:17:27
Everybody’s problems is out there, but like, you know what?
Keep some shit to yourself.
And like, if you want to believe in Jesus, yes.
Go for it.
I do not care.
I mean, for some people it’s good.
You need that moral compass, you know, ’cause you’re not feeling it within you, whatever.
1:17:48
But like, people showing up at your door trying to convert, you’re fucking crazy.
All those people going over to Africa to try and make these poor black kids into Christians fucking gross like.
1:18:08
Be spiritual.
Have that belief, but don’t be pushing your beliefs on everyone else.
We’re all here experiencing Earth, and we’re all going through it in different levels, experiencing things at different times and like it’s personal growth.
1:18:27
Like I do not need all this.
Other bullshit.
I’m very tired of people pushing their beliefs on me and pushing their agenda on me, pushing their products on me.
Like, fucking stop.
God, dude.
1:18:44
But Annie, if you become, like, baptized in an evangelical church, think of all of the wonderful books you can buy at their bookstore.
They’re from Tyndale.
That might be all that’s left in 50 years.
I hope that that’s not like what people think we are like after like thousands of years from now.
1:19:05
We’re in the second Dark Ages.
I feel like because the Dark Ages weren’t all bad, there was a lot of cool stuff that happened, just like now.
But the religious overtones and like the religious things.
1:19:20
Trying to take science stuff away and like trying to disprove all kinds of shit that has been.
Proven for a long time is wild to me.
It’s crazy.
The fact that we have people nowadays saying that the Earth is 6000 years old or that the earth is fucking flat, Oh my God.
1:19:43
Earthers, they get me the most ’cause I’m just like look like look in look in a telescope you could see like we’ve been to space, you can see these things.
I don’t understand.
1:20:01
It is really wild to me.
I and I think there are definitely like Dark Ages issues for sure.
And I feel like the more controlling the religious groups get like the worse.
The poor get shit on all the time and I’m like, can these things be connected?
1:20:22
Because none of these people up here are abiding by any of these rules.
I mean, you got mega church pastors that are like serial predators or like people who are like fucking dealing with like tax evasion and like all of this other illegal crap and they’re like, no.
1:20:42
But we have to follow these rules ’cause that’s what God wants.
Like I don’t.
Have to follow those things.
God put them in that position and you need to respect them is the other thing that I I was reading.
1:20:58
I was listening to something about like world.
I don’t know what I was listening to, but like all of the, like, different, different civilizations that were like, you know, including like in the West, like, everyone thought that like, the king was like the divinely ordained by God.
1:21:19
I’m like, we’re not really that different from that right now at all.
Like people are like, well, God put this person in power.
And that could be at your church.
That could be at, like your, you know, the president or whatever.
1:21:35
Unless you’re Biden, in which case Trump’s really the president, So.
Well, you know, that’s something I used to see at the museum where all these people wearing their Trump shirts and they all would have the one I wish I would have said something about, but I did not have time to get in an argument.
1:21:57
Stu’s wearing a shirt that said had Trump and like a crown and said Trump is king.
And I’m like, this is the United States.
We don’t have kings here.
You clearly don’t know your history.
Part of the reason we broke away from fucking England is ’cause we don’t want to have a king.
1:22:21
Like.
It’s like people are really fucking stupid and it pisses me off like Trump is a piece of shit and like.
Although I do find him funny sometimes.
1:22:38
I’m not going to lie.
I like his jokes, but like he’s not the fucking king.
He has nothing to do with God, All these evangelicals who back him.
You’re disgusting.
1:22:54
You put up a man who has broken the law over and over again, who just wants to be famous.
He loves being famous.
He fucks porn stars, he’s been married multiple times and you voted for him and say that God wants him to be president.
1:23:16
Like, do you hear yourselves?
Do you hear how fucked up that is?
I.
Do not understand the thinking.
I mean, I understand why the leaders of the church wanted it.
Because then.
Trump agreed to put in the judges that they wanted.
So the Supreme Court is the it’s not even just the Supreme Court.
1:23:37
But we’ve been dealing with like just regular federal judges that have fucking turned this world upside down.
And he put them all there.
Like a lot of them are not even in, you know in my opinion, like worthy of that appointment.
1:23:53
Like, I don’t think that they, some of them, I don’t think the Bar Association would be like, yeah, that’s a great candidate.
Like, yeah, it’s wild.
I feel like we’re living in the wild, Wild West.
And like, I feel not good when I hear Trump speak.
1:24:11
Like, I get like physically ill And I think maybe some of that is because like, I’m an empath and I’m like feeling the energy when I, like, watch his speeches.
And I’m just like, it’s how can you be so disconnected with yourself that you don’t realize that, like, this is gross?
1:24:31
Like the things that he is saying he’s saying is gross.
Like, and this is a gross person.
And I don’t understand either.
Like, I I feel like there’s a line that you have to toe where it’s like when we start discussing people’s appearances and stuff like that, where it’s like, yeah, I think it’s a really shitty, like for people to like, criticize somebody just for being like unattractive and let’s like their genes.
1:25:11
And then there’s like, I’m criticizing somebody’s appearance because, like, choices.
They choose to be orange and have a rat nest.
Yes, I he’s a slob dude.
1:25:27
Yes, he’s.
I don’t understand how he wakes up every morning when his job is public image and is like, this is my brand.
It works for me like you have to have some level of acknowledgement when you’re in public office.
1:25:42
Unfortunately, whether we agree with this or not, that like your image is part of your brand and there should be like some sense of fucking, like pride, like just a basic sense of pride when you leave the house.
1:25:57
So I don’t understand like, why you’re orange.
I don’t understand why your suits don’t fit.
I don’t understand why.
Especially because you’re a billionaire, you shouldn’t have perfectly tailored clothes.
Because if I was rich that I would have perfectly tailored.
1:26:14
Yeah, I don’t get that.
It’s like you have access to look good.
And I’m not saying like, get fillers, change your face or anything like that, but like, cut your hair, take a bath, stop fake tanning and get a suit that fits.
Like, I at the bare minimum, OK?
1:26:33
Like, I’m not even going to get into like, oh, he’s like unattractive.
Like, he will always be unattractive.
But like, he doesn’t even try.
Like, I wouldn’t if that guy showed up at a job interview, I would not hire him because he looks like a slob that takes no pride in himself.
1:26:50
And I’m like so grossed out that he is like representing us on the world stage.
Like, it’s embarrassing, dude.
It’s super embarrassing.
I’m like, you may as well just put it on a fucking sweat suit and just like, go for it, dude.
Like.
1:27:06
Yeah, yeah.
I don’t know.
Well, and I you know what?
I think most Americans, they don’t even care about parents anymore because most people are wearing fucking.
Sweatpants or like biker shorts and like sports bras all the time like a regular outfit.
1:27:27
Like, I don’t.
I don’t get that.
Like, I am noticing that the athleisure wear is starting to finally stop being such a thing.
Like, I felt like for a while it was just like yoga pants everywhere.
1:27:45
And I don’t care.
I mean, if you’re on the way to and from the gym or whatever, that’s fine.
But like when I worked in Gold Coast in Chicago, I would see women wearing like, yoga pants with fur.
I.
Was like, why are you doing this?
1:28:00
It’s like you can afford real pants.
Like, you’re clearly not wearing your fur coat to go work out for your fur vest.
Like, I saw a fur vest.
Like, you’re not going to wear a dead animal to the gym.
So clearly you’re not coming from the gym.
1:28:16
Like, can’t you put pants on?
Like, I don’t get it.
And it’s like, I just, I’m like, why?
Why are we doing this?
Like, I’ve been noticing that it’s not as common anymore.
I feel like leggings and, like, the yoga pants are starting to kind of like, go out of style of paper, like jeans again or whatever.
1:28:40
But I just didn’t get it for a while.
Like, everybody was wearing them and they were wearing them with like, normal tops, which I thought was really weird.
I’m like, the reason why are you wearing leggings with like, going out top?
First of all, jeans and a nice top was very 2008.
1:28:57
But like, but you’re like going out with leggings and a nice top.
Like, it just looks weird to me.
It’s like you’re wearing shiny pants.
Like, what’s going on here?
Right.
Yeah.
I don’t know, man.
Like, I’m I’m hoping as a cultural phenomenon that this is like going away like hardcore.
1:29:18
I hope so.
I I really hope people bring back some style just a little bit.
I mean, I’m very lazy.
Like if I don’t have to get dressed up, I won’t.
I don’t really wear makeup.
If I do, it’s like a little bit of eyeliner and some mascara.
1:29:36
So like, if I’m going out somewhere like nice to eat or I’m going to a show, I’m like doing something.
I’m going to put in a little bit of effort because why not?
It’s fun.
And like, I expect other people to put in effort, but it kind of goes back to the whole like, manners thing and like there’s outfits that you wear when you.
1:30:04
Go somewhere nice, You know, Like there’s occasions for things, and I think people have forgotten that.
And I don’t know if part of it was a pandemic because we didn’t matter what you fucking look like, you know?
1:30:21
But like if you go to a wedding, you wear something nice.
If you go to an expensive restaurant, you wear something nice like.
And you don’t have to have money.
It doesn’t have to be expensive, you know, You could go to Walmart and find something that’s cute and works for you.
1:30:44
Like, try it, try it.
Put on a nice outfit, see how you feel.
Be nice to yourself.
And I I want that to come back, you know, And I think you can still be casual and have style.
You know, I feel like fashion is always changing, but style is like you, you know, And I feel like a lot of people didn’t have personal style anymore.
1:31:12
And I feel like you can look casual but like still look styled at the same time.
And you know, I think that’s going to be different for everybody.
Like, I know you like to dress casual, but you always look like you have your own style.
You know what I mean?
It’s like how you dress.
1:31:29
I think you look good.
Like, you know, I don’t understand the whole, like casual wear in fancy restaurants.
And like when I say casual wear, like, I don’t mean like jeans.
1:31:44
Yes, every wears 1 wears jeans.
Two fancy restaurants now, like, whatever.
But one time Derek and I went out for like a really fancy dinner.
And he went like, I took him out for his birthday.
And I saved up a lot of money to go to this restaurant that was really, really expensive.
1:32:02
And just for like the two of us, I think the bill was like 300 and something after we left.
And there’s like a family there wearing, like matching track suits, like, like the fleece ones, you know what I mean?
1:32:18
With like the hoodies and like the fleece pants.
And I was like, dude, I’m about to spend like a good chunk of my money that I’ve been saving for months to come here and I’m sitting next to people in their pajamas.
Like, yeah.
That pisses me off.
1:32:34
And it pisses me off when people bring fucking kids to restaurants like that.
These kids don’t want to eat that food.
Keep them at home.
Like, this is for adults.
Like having a good time.
Yeah, totally.
1:32:49
I mean, I have dealt with some well behaved children that are like in a restaurant.
They can order for themselves, they’re like, polite and they don’t, like, need to scream all the time.
But like if you have one of those kids that needs to like, lay in the middle of the floor for no reason during dinner, like please don’t bring them to like a really expensive restaurant.
1:33:15
Like, I know that that sucks and that that’s not, like, easy on you as a parent, but like your child is a safety hazard and is ruining everybody else’s dinner.
I don’t know what else to tell you.
I mean, that’s the big thing.
It’s like, it’s not just about you, it’s about everybody else too.
1:33:34
And again, it’s like that in all facets of life.
It’s not just you out there like we are all here on this planet together, yeah.
Be nice.
Think.
Be considerate.
1:33:49
Just think about other people.
When you go somewhere, when you’re driving your car, when you’re walking down the street, like, be nice everybody.
1:34:05
Can we make this a thing?
I want everybody to just start.
Thumbs up being asshole drivers.
Yes.
Anyways, I have noticed like some of the astrologers that I follow have been kind of quiet this week and that like scares me a little bit.
1:34:28
Have you noticed that?
I think that this week there’s not as.
I mean, you have the full moon eclipse.
Yeah, but we’re dealing with like a lot of Pluto stuff going on right now.
1:34:50
There’s like some, there’s some, like tense shit happening.
I feel, I feel I’m feeling the energy and I’m like, what are the astrologers not telling us?
Like, I know that sounds really ridiculous.
For November, because I’ve heard some of my November stuff and I’m like, that sounds gross in November too.
1:35:09
So, well, I heard November is going to start to lighten up a little bit.
But I don’t know, I just this eclipse is crazy already.
And I don’t, I don’t it hasn’t even happened yet.
But maybe I’m just like freaking myself out.
But one of the astrologers that I like do listen to their content pretty frequently.
1:35:27
Made a really good point, he was saying.
Like, we’re all under the same sky right now.
We’re all living under the same sky.
So I feel like being a little bit extra nice to people, even when you want to, like, be mean for no reason like I did this weekend.
1:35:48
I wasn’t being mean for no reason.
I was just like real fucking crabby and like short tempered.
But I kept like pulling myself back and being like, you’re just in a mood, Al, like don’t have an explosion.
But I feel like I might need to like, continue to lend a little bit more grace to everybody around me because I feel like everybody’s feeling it this week.
1:36:12
Yeah, I think everyone’s feels stressed.
The world is very stressful right now.
And you know, I was doing tarot cards with my mom today and both of us in our readings.
1:36:30
Yeah, nothing is very definitive.
And I feel like you’re reading was kind of similar.
Like there’s emotions in the readings but no definitive movement.
And I’m like, OK, what does that mean?
Like things are undetermined.
1:36:46
The world is doing something and we don’t know yet.
I am a little like, OK, what’s happening?
Do you think we might be like at a turning point for something where it’s like we go one way or the other?
It could be.
1:37:04
It’s interesting.
Yeah, we’ll see.
I don’t know.
It’s a lot of energy.
I just.
I’m really tired, dude.
I’m really tired.
Like, I don’t want to be tired.
I don’t know why I’m tired.
1:37:20
I’m blaming it on the stars.
If you think that’s weird, you don’t have to listen to me anymore.
Don’t like this podcast but don’t like and subscribe If you think that’s too woo woo for you, ’cause I this is just who I am.
But I don’t know.
1:37:36
I’ve been feeling like real tired ever since these eclipses started.
And I’m like, can we just be through with Eclipse season right now?
I don’t know.
It’s.
I just feel like a little bit worn out and sensitive.
I feel like really sensitive, yes.
And I feel very like, like I have feel like exposed almost a little bit like a raw nerve, you know?
1:38:00
Yeah, so absolutely.
We’ll see how we’ll see how this eclipse goes this weekend.
Hopefully nothing crazy happens.
And if it does, we’ll talk about it on Trash Parade.
1:38:18
Yeah.
So should we wrap things up here?
Yeah, sure.
I think so.
And with what gives you joy?
What gave you joy this week?
I think what gave me the most joy this week was well-being.
1:38:42
Able to sleep through the night gave me a lot of joy this week.
I think that I didn’t realize how tired I was, partially because I was house sitting or I should say pet sitting for a dog who I love but also has very talkative, very chatty, and I really appreciate being able to have slept through the night last night.
1:39:10
So that is giving me a lot of joy right now.
And I think just like, I’m still in the same place, dude, I’m like still in my house burning incense and keeping that shit clean and like having a beautiful cup of coffee in the morning has been like setting my day, like, on the right trajectory.
1:39:33
I’m like very picky about how I bring my coffee.
So like my husband has been out of town so having having the coffee set for when I wake up means I get like the fresh cup.
Yeah, and I’m like, yes, everything.
1:39:50
What about you?
Well, I John Waters is giving me joy this week.
He gives everyone joy.
I’m so happy.
I, you know, I go through moments where I’m like, I need trash, I need filth and I need to laugh.
1:40:13
And so Saturday night, going into my birthday on Sunday, I ate a bunch of edibles and I was like, I need to see Divine and I need to see some filth.
So I watched what was it called?
1:40:32
Multiple Maniacs.
This movie is from like 1970, and it’s in black and white, which I love even more because it’s like, it’s such a ridiculous movie.
Oh, but but it gave me so much joy to just see some crass.
1:40:52
I feel like we don’t get to see that kind of stuff anymore, you know?
Yeah, I feel like too that that’s really transgressive stuff for the time.
I mean I think it is still transgressive as fuck.
Yeah Divine gets fucking fucked into church with a rosary by some woman that she just meets and and she kills everyone.
1:41:22
And the The thing is hilarious is like when somebody gets killed in this movie is not some like graphic bloody thing.
You see the knife not stabbing the person and the person like slowly dying.
Which is like super camp.
1:41:40
It’s just it’s so ridiculous.
I recommend everybody watch John Water movies, especially Divine movies, ’cause they’re just they’re just wonderful.
They’re wonderful and like nonsense and like an opportunity to, like, take bad things and make them hilarious.
1:42:05
Yeah, so.
I think like comedy, it can be so healing, but like, when you’re dealing with like the absurdity in the grossness of the world and like trying to find a way to like kind of you’re just like looking at it and you’re just like this is absurd, you know?
1:42:23
Like it can be very healing, you know?
Yeah, I feel like a lot of like the shit that I’ve been through, so ridiculous that like, I have to laugh at it because I’m just like, this is, this is what I went through.
Like it’s insane.
It’s like a David Sedaris book.
Like, yes, absolutely.
1:42:42
But yeah, no, that’s awesome, dude.
I’m glad you enjoyed that.
What else are you getting joy from this week Britney Spears book?
I ordered it.
It’s going to be delivered tomorrow.
So I will be indulging in all of the hot Goss that Britney is going to unload.
1:43:05
I love like, rock’n’roll autobiography, so I’m like super excited for this.
So yeah, this is a week of just, like, trashy shit, campy shit and the Hot Dos.
1:43:23
I’m all.
About it.
I love it.
Yeah.
There’s so many.
I’m loving like how Britney is totally getting like her vengeance on everyone.
I feel like this is going to be real messy for a lot of people.
1:43:41
Has Justin Timberlake come out with this statement?
I don’t.
I know that he’s like.
I know people are mad at him right now.
Yeah, I think it’s smart for him not to say anything.
1:43:58
Let the book come out.
I mean, and out.
These were like 219 year olds.
Yeah.
And they’re like superstars.
Like they made decisions that, even under regular circumstances, are very difficult.
1:44:17
Oh 100%.
You know, I just what I find kind of cathartic about the whole situation is that like Britney was played as such a oh, this was she stepped out on me like she was going through like oh like.
1:44:37
You know, being slut shamed and all that other stuff like while this is going on and people just assumed like all of these things about her and like that relationship ending.
And I feel like Justin got away like untarnished from it.
1:44:54
And I think like that has a lot to do with like misogyny and the press and all that stuff and everything else that was going on at the time.
Which we should talk about the 2000 sometime because girl I.
I’m still processing that shit.
But yeah, like finding, like finding out that, like, Britney Spears had like a regular relationship with this guy.
1:45:18
They broke up over regular reasons.
Like she didn’t, like, step out on him and inspire an entire album.
And like, it’s nice to see that she’s getting like the normal girl attention that she deserved back when that happened.
1:45:33
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
So yeah, it’s just, you know, it’s not all Britney’s fault.
All right, just leave.
Leave Britney alone.
Leave her alone.
All right.
Well, another podcast done.
1:45:50
I hope everybody has an excellent week and finds their joy.
Do something nice for yourself.
Maybe spend a little money on yourself.
Do something that makes you happy.
Bye y’all.
See you in a week or two.
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